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Scary and Doubtful Items...... 10 years 7 months ago #22665

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Hi Gents,

It appears I have a tailors copy of the Tugela Heights Clasp. Problem is I do not have an original to compare it with, can one of you with such a TH clasp please confirm or post up a picture of your clasp for comparison?





I suspect due to the lettering being to tight (not well spaced) and the bar being very thin.

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Scary and Doubtful Items...... 10 years 7 months ago #22666

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Hi Stephen......

Look here: www.angloboerwar.com/medals-and-awards/b...s-south-africa-medal

also here is a picture that I have......

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Scary and Doubtful Items...... 10 years 7 months ago #22667

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Thanks Mike,

If only I had dug a little deeper within the ABW website. Think I was just fixated on posting up another picture!

That however does confirm my suspicion about this clasp.

I have brought the issue to the attention of the Seller.

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Scary and Doubtful Items...... 10 years 6 months ago #23275

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Good Morning Everyone......

But he is not in David's book.....

This is on ebay.......

British-Army-5th-Royal-Irish-Lancers-QSA-KSA-Medal-Trio/191386622775

According to the list that I have he is entitled to Rhodesia and Talana bars......

If verified would you add??????

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Scary and Doubtful Items...... 10 years 6 months ago #23278

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Hi all

If you look on the roll, the Rhodesia and Talana bar columns are crossed out and 1901 & 1902 written in. He is entitled to the Natal bar but also Belmont according to the role, but in the end column, there is a line crossed out and the number 3 inserted, which looking at the other entries, would mean 3 bars, including the 01, 02 bars.

On a bodged KSA roll, it states the clasps, (dup), for the KSA were returned in 1904.

On another more formal looking KSA roll, it confirms the KSA 2 bar award.

Intriguing!

Doug.
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Scary and Doubtful Items...... 10 years 6 months ago #23281

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The medals and clasps are correct as issued - eventually as Doug notes. Papers on FmP confirm service from December 1899 to 1902.

The entitlement to Belmont is simply a clerical "tick" next to the name - not a clasp entitlement.

The "bodged KSA roll" is the QSA Extra Clasp roll used for issuing CC,OFS,T,SA01,SA02 clasps.

A very nice correct group with some police research to be done as well.

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If you look on the roll, the Rhodesia and Talana bar columns are crossed out and 1901 & 1902 written in. He is entitled to the Natal bar but also Belmont according to the role, but in the end column, there is a line crossed out and the number 3 inserted, which looking at the other entries, would mean 3 bars, including the 01, 02 bars.

On a bodged KSA roll, it states the clasps, (dup), for the KSA were returned in 1904.

On another more formal looking KSA roll, it confirms the KSA 2 bar award.

Intriguing!

Doug.

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