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introduction 11 years 1 month ago #18645

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John,

It may be that he was invalided after sickness/disease rather than any fighting injury. I will search the newspapers and see if there is any mention of him but I would doubt this.

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introduction 11 years 1 month ago #18647

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William Arthur Heselton Shepherd joined the Royal Lancaster Regiment on the 17th of May 1895 after he had been discharged from the 4th Hussars where he had served as number 3587 Private for just a couple of weeks the year before.
He served for over twenty two years before being completely discharged.
I really can't understand why the museum would have told you his records were destoryed as they never had them in the first place because they are at Kew.

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he also received the lsgc, l don't think any one alive in the family knew he had been injured, is there any information on how or which part of the war he was injured? I think he may have gone with the regiment to Dublin but we have no proof, I do know he was in Plymouth for a while and that during the first world war he was at depot in Lancaster.
Thanks for the information, I did speak to the regimental museum at Lancaster and they said some of his records were destroyed in a fire during ww2. That does close one thing though during a records search I carried out I found some one same name and initials who had served in the 4queens hussars who had been in hospital in Aldershot for an injury so I can rule out that from his back ground, I had my doubts as the regimental numbers were different, but I know that he had wanted to join the cavalry originally.
Thanks again for the information
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Hi Frank
while searching through records I did come across mention of this but all the family knew about was his time with the kings regiment Lancaster, and as I said in my post his number had changed I myself served and got out and the reenlisted and my number stayed the same but after doing some reading late last night it looks like the system of regimental numbers was slightly different.
There had been a fire at some stage and some regimental records and history were destroyed and they believed that his may have been part of it which is why they gave me that answer this would of possibly been before any records were moved to Q.
I also believe he was with the 3rd special battalion during the 1st world war, as the orderly room quarter master Sargent, the best I can work out is they were a basic training and holding unit for the regiment,
During his life time he talked very little to the family about his past
Thanks very much for the information, its much appreciated
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Hello John,
Shepherd re engaged in the Kings own Royal Lancaster Regiment at Lancaster on the 11th of July 1906 to enable him to attain twenty one years service.
Interestingly, this original and very brief service in D Squadron 4th Hussar's was allowed to be counted towards his pension!
He must have had a complete change of heart since having to find £10 to pay for his original discharge back in 1894, a huge sum of money for a shilling a day soldier!
He was awarded his Long Service Good Conduct medal in 1913.
He subsequently joined their 3rd Battalion with the number 35020 on the 17th of May 1917 and was promoted to WO 2nd Class on the 24th of June 1918.
He transfered to the Z Class Reserve on the 7th of December 1919.
The museum could not have ever had any of his records and they would have actually been at the Army Records Office which was damaged by the Luftwaffe, but, all Shepherd's papers have survived and were not amongst those damaged.
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while searching through records I did come across mention of this but all the family knew about was his time with the kings regiment Lancaster, and as I said in my post his number had changed I myself served and got out and the reenlisted and my number stayed the same but after doing some reading late last night it looks like the system of regimental numbers was slightly different.
There had been a fire at some stage and some regimental records and history were destroyed and they believed that his may have been part of it which is why they gave me that answer this would of possibly been before any records were moved to Q.
I also believe he was with the 3rd special battalion during the 1st world war, as the orderly room quarter master Sargent, the best I can work out is they were a basic training and holding unit for the regiment,
During his life time he talked very little to the family about his past
Thanks very much for the information, its much appreciated
Best regards. John

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LOL David,
Shepherd seemed to have an "abscess" issue! :sick:
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It may be that he was invalided after sickness/disease rather than any fighting injury. I will search the newspapers and see if there is any mention of him but I would doubt this.

Kind regards
David

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Hi Frank
I'm not surprised he got out who wants to be a donkey walloper lol and I don't think he would have paid more likely his family did as I do know they didn't want him to join, I think he was cut off from them once he rejoined

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